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we'll be back tomorrow. with all due respect, i take away so much time from them. i'm giving it to them early. you have 9 free seconds, mark. it's all yours. see you. >> on the show tonight, convention plots and speaking with just 19 days to go until republicans convene in cleveland. first the world and america still reacting to the attack at istanbul yesterday. the total number people killed is now 41, according to authorities. more than 200 injured. by three suicide bombers who tirkish officials say have ties to the islamic state. hillary clinton and donald trump have each weighed in over the past 24 hours. let's review what they've said. the attack at the airport occurred just before 3:00 p.m. eastern time. trump offered his first reaction at 4:08 p.m. he tweeted, yet another terrorist attack.
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this time in turkey. will the world ever realize what is going on? so sad. then a second tweet a couple minutes later. we must do everything possible to keep this horrible terrorism outside the united states. then 5:48 p.m. nearly three hours the attack clinton finally responded. she tweeted her official statement, driving a slightly different message saying in part, all americans stand united with the people of turkey. then at 6:12, trump sent an e-mail to the media staying terrorist threat has never been greater. then half an hour later trump himself spoke at a rally in st. clairsville, ohio, driving home that same message talking tough on terror. >> so we can't do waterboarding but they can do chopping off heads, drowning people in steel cages. they can do whatever they want to do. you have to fight fire with fire.
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>> late this afternoon, isis exploded on hillary clinton's watch. it's a bit of a case study for us to look at how these two potential presidents have reacted to an international crisis. who seem to be handling it better, clinton or trump? >> the only thing we can say at this point is that trump is handling it more aggressively and more energetically. he's been much louder on this topic than hillary clinton has been. i am not sure. he clearly feels confident that this is a winning issue for him. it is not 100% clear that saying that we have to become like the terrorists to beat them is necessarily either true or a winning argument politically in the long run. >> george w. bush was very aggressive rhetorically as a commander in chief. as an incumbent and i think helped himself in the election against john kerry by talking tough. the question to me is can a
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nonincumbent with no military experience no, government experience, get away with talking tough? or can hillary clinton trump that? i do think that trump is appealing, to people who don't like the way things are going in the war on terror. and while president obama has been aggressive in some ways, no doubt that his approval on dealing with the topic has ebbed and flowed and if we have more attacks, trump's aggressive wnls the kind of voters he needs to win, may carry the day. >> maybe. it is possible. and there is no doubt, look. the clearest contrast in the world between the of two them is that trump as he has done in a lot of ways on a lot of issues, playing hard the fear card. you should be afraid. things are spirg down the drain. we must take draconian actions. clinton much more with an approach that is more about uniting, not the status quo but
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about toughness based on resoluteness and not based on fearful. >> here's what's good for america and the voters. getting a chance to see how these two behave. this is a good real-time test for people to see which style of leadership do they want. this afternoon at the north american meeting in ottawa. that's in canada. president obama met with the prime minister of canada during which they spoke about trade and fighting terrorism. >> this with the people of turkey, the people of istanbul and all those who are affected by this terrible crime. we have offered all stance that we have available to our ally, turkey, and we stand prepared to assist them in this difficult time. we're still learning all the facts but we know this is part of our broader shared fight
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against terrorist networks. and we'll work close when i turningy to rout them out. >> the past few days have not been great for president obama on the political front. most people barely commented on the failure of his efforts to not influence the outcome of the brexit. he was in favor of remaining and went to england to say so. then the today, on turkey has been shining a light on him. so what are the events of the past days talks about the lame duckness of president obama's lame duck status? >> i was surprised with the brexit vote that people didn't see it as bigger loss to the president. he put a hot of capital down. he got more attention when he tried to win the world cup for the u.s. and failed. i think it is cautionary for the white house. the president has been counted out before and came back. he has some international
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travel. he is still the president. i thought it was a waiting sign. his approval rating, 38% twh handling isis. it is pretty clear the world is not necessarily looking to leadership now the way they once did. as a caution for him, a caution for clinton, the white house staff. he's been counted out before and come back. particularly on the international stage. >> if you compare his lame duckness to the following four presidents in our lifetime. george w. bush at the end of his second term, bill clinton at the end of his second term, president obama in terms of his approval rating, compared to both, and in terms of his ability to have a role in his presidential campaign. he is very strong but there is no doubt he is playing a very
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strong hand. >> we may see a flip. this president may turn to politics and domestic issues. we'll see how that goes. when we come back, what do ted cruz and john casic have up their sleeves? now you can't spell nutriam i right?t nut, i mean whose to say it's pronounced nu-triton, anyway? my mixes contain delicious nuts, specially blended for your optimal nut-rition.
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yesterday we showed you part of donald trump's speech, the one where he's standing in front of a wall of trash. it turns out the chamber of commerce, traditionally one of the most reliable of all republican allies had a little problem with some of the things trump is proposing. trump put out a statement and responded directly to trump on twitter. including a tweet that said, quote, under trump's trade plans, we would see higher prices, fewer jobs, a weaker
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economy. this morning, trump fired back, quote, why would the u.s. chamber be upset by the fact that i want to negotiate better and stronger trade deals our want penalties for cheaters? and in another tweet. the u.s. chamber must fight harder for the american worker, china, and many others are taking advantage of u.s. with our terrible trade pacts. then late this afternoon in his rally in maine the prumtive republican nominee showed off some of his knowledge about this very complex issue. >> i know every form of trade. fair trade, good trade, bad trade, free trade. hums of names. the u.s. chamber of commerce is totally controlled by the special interest groups. they're upset with my statements on trade. and i said let me ask you a question. why? why would you be upset? i'm all for free trade. the problem with free trade is you need smart people making
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good deals. free trade is can i killing us. >> so we are a little more than the baseball trade deadline. before we get there, i want to ask you. how big a political price do you think trump may pay for abandoning a key element of republican orthodoxy? and knowing a larnlgt part of the republican business establishment? >> well, some will be more elite. my hats off to the chamber for standing on principle for what they believe in. bill clinton ran against his party's position in 1992 and was able to basically expand the electorate enough to work win. i think republicans will have to get used to it. if there is a path to expanding the electorate, it seems to me it is through working class voters. while it will cause some friction, i don't think it will break apart a voting coalition.
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>> a lot of it will depend on how h h handles this. it has changed the course over the last twenty, 30 years. many people have suffered from that. there are those who have gained from it. it is not cheer that trump will win from this politically but the question is whether hillary clinton can capitalize on it, given her conflicts over the issue of free trade and protectionism. >> the chamber is focused, if trump looks like he can win this thing at the end, i think you will see some groups that are skeptical. business groups. get on board with trump if they think he can win it at the end. >> a little more than two week out from the republican convention in cleveland. naturally a lot of attention is turned on who will be
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responding. apparently john kasich isn't sure about either option. he may not set foot in at all. john weaver sent out a very interesting bhoil a new series of swing state polls from something called what the pedia in a match-up against clinton in several battle ground state than trump does. we're told by a source close the him that he'll be doing cleveland. he'll be dog doing events to help candidates decide trump but at this point doesn't have manls to step inside the hall. meanwhile, senator ted cruz has been even harder to pin down about what he imagines in cleveland. cruz' spokesman said there is no expectation that he'll get a speaking slot. though under the current republican rules he did get enough votes to get his name in nomination and get to speak. cruz loyalists may get to may a
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significant role on the committees that get to draft the committees and platform a week before it begins. we are told by people close to cruz, that he plans to be there but he's not sure. so leaving option over open there to perhaps extend his stay. john, given all that, what do you think ted cruz and john kasich rthiare thinking with? i think kasich is trying to keep trump off his suit. and in case this trump thing catches on, he is likely the next nominee in the party given that he has the second most delegates and the greatest standing to knock trump off if that movement emerges. those seem to be the games these two are playing. >> neither one wants to hug
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donald trump at this point. most of the team feels the same way. they both see themselves as potential front-runners. people have lost sight of the convention. when there is talk of even overturning the voter, a lot is positioning for four years down the road. i would say at this point, you look at the 15 people who ran against trump. the two who have spent the most time thinking that what 2020 might look like are ted cruz and john kasich. >> those number are very strong for kasich and our indications are that he intends to do a lot of campaigning from what he considers a main stream. if he goes out without the taint of trump on him.
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it will give him a boost in his mind in 2020 for sure. >> it is a big sweepstakes. if trump is not in demand, who are the stars? is it george bush is raising money for him? who is out on the trail as a big surfwat? kasich and cruz are both looking to do that. coming up, we'll talk more about the presidential race and the aftermath of the terrible attacks in turkey. what knee pain? what sore elbow? what joint pain? adl liqui-gels are sfast, they make pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer than advil liqui-gels the world's #1 choice what pain? advil. ♪
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i've said to him both publicly and privately, you're a great entertainer, you're good before a crowd, you have a lot of twitter followers. and we're fine for you in the primaries. now that you're in the general, people are looking for a level of seriousness that's typically conveyed by having a prepared text and teleprompter and staying on message. so my hope is that he is beginning to pivot and become what i would call a more serious and credible candidate for the highest office in the land. >> that was republican senator mitch mcconnell, the gop leader of the senate, speaking to new york one about his party's presumptive nominee. joining us to talk about the state of the race. always political analyst. she wrote an op ed titled, the
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gop waits and waits for donald trump to grow up. and it reads in part this. party leaders have watched the last eight weeks of the trump candidacy the way you experience a chase scene in a dream where your legs never move fast enough to outrun the three-headed dragon on roller skates. which we have here. >> i just noticed that. so mitch mcconnell seems to be like exhibit a. not listening to the wallace doctrine. waiting for a guy to change. >> everybody is waiting for something that is never going to happen and donald trump on the other hand is waiting for respect that he feels he is entitled to for what is undeny when i a massive political accomplishment, after losing in wisconsin. he went on to win every primary after that by massive margins. he thinks he can transform the republican party. leaders are not impressed.
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they find cause to rebuke him. wroi the piece before i saw that today, john mccain rebuke him for his position on waterboarding. so he made it exactly seven days. >> let me push back on your thesis. it seems to me, paul ryan when he's been a critic of trump, trump has changed his ways. not every time but some of the criticism, some of the private advice does at least on the margins make him more measured. more in the mold that they want. >> he wants to win. when he stumbles, after wisconsin is a good example. after the last month which has been roundly criticized as a wasted period of time when he could have been beefing up his campaign. raising money. he had racism scandal after racism scandal. he called judge mexican who was born in america because he thought he was biased against him. he got himself tangled up in all sorts of trouble from his unscripted moments.
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mostly on morning talk shows. and i don't think they're mut l mutually exclusive. this idea that everyone is waiting for him to be normal is a fantasy. >> i want to ask you what we saw of trump in the last 24 hours since the istanbul attack. he said we have to fight the 28 terrorists fight. we have to be super violent and not be so could not strained by those gosh darn laws on the books. is that helping him or hurting him? >> it is helping him clear a different threshold. >> i saw your comments this morning as an obvious problem in his point of view. we are not them and that's the point. we cannot engage in their tactics. his numbers on the question of terrorism are about the only ones that held up during what was the most abysmal month for
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any candidate for the presidency that i can remember. >> the only place where he still had an advantage of over hillary clinton, who do you trust from terrorists or who do you trust on the question of terrorism? so he is on solid political ground. but the question when it is asked about who is most qualified to be the commander in chief, who is the steadiest leader, she still has the advantage. he has the public behind him when he talks about being tough on terrorists. people view a terrorist who would kill innocent people in an airport, children and familiar his going on vacation, they view them as animals. so most people, even while a debate roiled, many members of the government remained supportive of doing whatever we had to do to defeat them. so donald trump is on solid
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political ground but it is not the ground you want to stand on if you're trying to pass a credible commander in chief test. it is why you see national security leaders, people who work for republican presidents coming out to endorse hillary clinton. >> so you've hated out the conundrum, you've laid out the conundrum pretty well. there is also this more fundamental test. so if you are advising trump, if he calls and you said, how should i talk about this? how should i moderate? what would your advice be to him in i was in a great piece on spy masters. the next please wants to waterboard will have to bring his own bucket. so i would get on the phone with mike heyden and find out what experts think on this question. that's the very point of the piece today. why isn't he on the phone with policy experts? if terrorism is an opportunity for donald trump to fix his
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political problem, which is that he needs to close the gender gap, he needs to get more married women to trust him on national security, more than they trust hillary clinton, why isn't he spending the same amount of time he spoenls twitter and on tv, talking to really smart policy people like mike heyden or jim woolsey who innings is coming on your show next. what do you think of ted cruz' posture at this point? whether it is smart for him? >> the largest growing group of voters is republicans in the senate. and their group is undecided. mike lee said yesterday morning, that he is not sure he will endorse. when generjeb bush said he woul vote, it is now a lot of flak. >> is cruz paying a price for
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anybody by saying, i don't know what i'm going to do about trump? >> i don't think anyone assumes ted cruz will vote for hillary clinton. if you can't full lever for donald trump, that's a powerful statement. whether or not he'll pay the price with the huge swath of republicans. i think trump has 80% approval rating among republicans. republican voters want to see republican leaders. >> for a while, hit all sorts of oxygen. >> it never had that much. it never had any viability. >> is there now going to come more pressure on republicans to get had line? >> well, i think they're going to have to stake out a position. you can vote for hillary clinton or trump. i think there is this idea that they'll sit it out. >> i'm an undecided voter. i hated out my quagmire in my
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therapy process. i'm waiting for him to get better. iinexplicable that he can't do this. >> nicole will stay with us. it might be a surprise to her. we'll come back and talk about the terrorist attacks on turkey.
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welcome back. the world is still wrestling with the suicide attacks in turkey yesterday. james woolsey is with us. what could the u.s. government be doing that would be more aggressive than president obama is doing to fight against isis and other terrorists around the world? >> as of now, we're playing like
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a game as if we were the hockey goalie and any shot on net in the whole season that gets through catching it, we lose everything. we have to do a better job of getting in the heads of our enemy. one thing is to call them what they are, jihadi,er not to mince words as the president is doing. the other i think is to take notice of the fact that we'll to have make some serious compromises. we all want our privacy. we all also want security. in a normal average pleasant day in the united states, and other parts of the world, too, security and privacy don't really clash that much. but when you get attacked by
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particularly as ruthless as isis, they do clash. we have to develop a public private partnership so the people in the government, nsa especially, but other parts as well, that are real experts on data and what one can do with it. that people from the, essentially the data industry, that are very good at pulling together information on people from publicly available nonowned data, and helping figure out from that data where an individual group is going to be going the next day. where they have bought some new kind of material or weapons, one has to untangle what they are doing. and some people say that might affect my privacy. it conceivably could. we have to make some choices and i think we're going to have to compromise a bit on both privacy and security.
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>> ambassador, a question from nicole wallace. >> sir, have you been in contact with the trump campaign to offer any of these insights or any of your knowledge or impart any of that on him? >> no. i'm an old scoop jackson/joe lieberman. >> do you think there's anything disqualifying about what he has said about the nature of the enemy or the things we would do to protect ourselves? does the talk about bringing back waterboarding where a debate has been had, has he staked out any ground on counter terror that disqualifies him from the presidency? >> there are things that i agree with and disagree with that he says. i'll mention a couple here. but i don't think anything is disqualifying. one can say all sorts of things. it is a free country. first amendment. i think i think trying to keep muslims out as muslims was a bad
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decision. >> he walked it back in fairness. now he describes it as a ban against people from certain terror regions. >> that could be quite legal to ban people from syria for a time. i think it is illegal to ban muslims. i also think that his ideas on trade are much too restrictive. there can be some compromises with free trade but generally we ought to be free traders, i think, from the interests of prosperity. and i think i disagree with him on that. but i won't say any of these things disqualify him i just disagree. >> if the turkish government came to you and said we'll do whatever you say to fight against terrorism. what would you ask them to do? >> work out a mode of operation with the kurds so these two wonderful fighting forces in the middle east, each of whom has been working with us at one time
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or another. the kurds and the turks. could cooperate with us. we would have to be overseeing it all. and the anger and hatred this is longstanding. but these are both extraordinary able groups of fighting men and women. and i think if we could do something to pull them together with us, okay, keep them at separate flanks so they don't have to talk to one another. i think the key to victory over isis and syria and iraq, and over the long run, to any use of force that isis may contemplate probably lies in getting all the sunnis, as many as possible, special they kurds and shia. i'm sorry. the kurds and turks. >> is this a case to be made by
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conservative when's the president refused to enforce the red hine he drew in syria based on assad using kept weapons on his own people, is this a fair argument to make that when that happened, that put into motion a weakening american credibility? an emboldening of russia? is there a conservative case, a thoughtful policy case to be made that some of our problems are rooted in that single action? >> i think this is a conservative case, a mohammed ca, a medium case and a liberal case. it was one of the foreign policy obama administration. it made us look weak. it enhanced the stature of the russians in the middle east. it made america's word look like it wasn't worth anything. it was a very bad decision. whatever your politics. >> what was the other bad decision? >> i think the other really bad one was supporting and endorsing the so-called nuclear deal with
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iran which is completely unenforceable and very easy to sub vent by going around. i think that freeing up $150 billion to the world's number one terrorist state so they can double and redouble their terrorist work is about as stupid as foreign policy decisions get. >> okay. ambassador james woolsey. thank you very much for joining us. >> coming out, more about donald trump's speech in maine today right after this. you owned your car
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nexium 24hr. the easy-to-swallow tablet is here. just remember this. they signed a pledge saying they will abide. saying they will back the candidate of the party. and now they sit back and the press is out there and the press doesn't even go after them on that. they broke their word. in my opinion they should never be allowed to run for public office again. what they did is disgraceful. >> that was donald j. trump at his rally in bangor, maine, moments ago, talking about his former rivals who have yet endorsed him. our next guests also have not
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endorsed him. tim miller, thank you both for joining us. in this instance, i will give pride a place to proximity rather than appealing this. i'm going to ask you about trump. dump trump, we're headed to cheefld pretty soon. what are the odds that trump will be dumped? >> i think the odds are pretty low, to be honest. it is a real chance and an opportunity to do so. the reality is that the delegates are unbound legally. and i think that there is going to be a legitimate objection to him at the convention and there should be because, look, donald trump is an extreme candidate. outside of the main stream of the republican party and there is a huge minority segment within the party that is not aligned with hill on the issues. he can't beat hillary clinton.
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>> before i go to kim, if that is the case, why have you failed so miserably at convincing the good people of your party to go ahead and dump this guy? >> well, look. we had a very fragmented field. there were 17 candidates. trump won 47, 48% of the vote. he never did win a majority of the party. trump was successful in playing with, or in taking advantage of some of the fractures within the republican party base. that does not mean there should be an objection. >> you say trump will not be dumped. why? >> because if you look at the rnc, they're already 100% on board. and i think that there is not as salacious an alternative. and if this election has taught us anything, it is that you have to be pretty entertaining and
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pretty out there to wake people up from the sort of doldrums that they've had of typical political rhetoric for so long. so i don't see anyone. i loved john kasich. he was my guy. i don't see how he takes stage and steals it. he is just not that kind of person. >> kim, if trump asks you for your best piece of advice for the best chance of winning, what would that be? >> i would say do what you're doing but make sure you're walking back the stuff that is really out there. i think that he's been pretty brilliant in this kind of buck shot or scatter shot approach where he blows the doors off that makes everybody jolt with a, huh? and then weeks later, since he does so many, one after another after another. the jolt is forgotten and he is able to walk it back. like the muslim ban. and i think he has this electrical way of going after voters and getting them to pay
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attention and it is not dumb. i think he is doing a great job of it. i don't love the guy. i don't necessarily know what i'm going to do but i do give him kudos for understanding how to talk to people this year. >> if trump comes out of cleveland as the nominee, tell me what you see for the fall. >> i think the reality is trump will get worse, not better. there is this wishful thinking in washington and i think kim expressed part of that. they think he will bhai better. the reality is he'll get crushed by hillary clinton. he's a toddler. when toddlerser go on, they don't get better. so trump will start to act out and we'll see the candidates have to separate themselves from him and hopefully, with money and resources from anti-trump conservatives, we can save the house and hope any, at least, keep it close in the senate
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where a hot of senators are running good campaigns like pat toomey. >> so the atrocity is how bad? how bad do you think could it get for donald trump? >> i think he is certainly going to be worse than mccain in 2008. he will lose arizona. i think georgia will go into may. and i think in the national ballot, which will be the real problem in states like texas, where there will be congressionals to myself i think his percentages will be far, far lower than what we've seen. >> do you think that donald trump can actually win and what do you think, do you think that's a slim possibility is this or do you think that he is basically a coin flip of hillary h? >> well, i mean, each of them are dramatically flawed. so let's not underestimate their flaws.
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i would say that that politics, it is head and heart. or right now, gut is a better way to describe it. people are scared. people are worried. people have been ignited and their fears have been stoked. and even though there are a lot of smart people he can that nod their heads when they say, we have to fight pack. one after another after another of terror attacks. jobs continue to be lost. these are real things that affect people's hives. i think they may suspend. >> your old friend, john weaver, close to john kasich said at the poes we talk about how kasich and ryan are doing better than trump against clinton in a lot of cases. what do you think john weaver
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and john kasich are up to? >> well, john weaver is a noted troublemaker. like i said to john heilemann, i think there will be some push back in cleveland. and there is good reason for there to be. the worse the poes look, the worse trump's behavior gets. they do have real options to get rid of donald trump. i think you can see a potential challenge to donald trump on the floor, obviously, john kasich's home state. he has existing delegates so those would be the people to take advantage of it. it is an outside chance. but given how bad it is, the organization of late, and increasing organization of the anti-trump delegates, i think that's probably what john weaver was hook at when he sent that e-mail out.
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>> if donald trump is choosing between chris christie, newt gingrich, mary fallon and senator corker, which of those four would be the smartest pick? >> it doesn't matter. it truly doesn't matter. according to the poll, it doesn't help him in fundraising. and beyond that, he is the ticket. something there is somebody we don't know about, it doesn't do anything for him. even if he chooses a moderately political old hand, it won't affect way donald trump acts. if he picks someone exciting and who we never thought of. donald trump is a pretty bright and loud head of the ticket.
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>> all right. kim, a ray of sunshine, and tim rain cloud miller, thank you for coming on. >> up next, we'll get an update on turkey. now the world is responding to this terrible terror attack. hey, ready for the big meeting? yeah. >>uh, hello!? a meeting? it's a big one. too bad. we are double booked: diarrhea and abdominal pain. why don't you start without me? oh. yeah. if you're living with frequent, unpredictable diarrhea and abdominal pain, you may have irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea,r ibs-d. a condition that can be really frustrating. talk to your doctor about viberzi, a different way to treat ibs-d. viberzi is a prescription medication you take every day that helps proactively manage both diarrhea and abdonal pain at the same time. so you stay ahead of your symptoms. viberzi can cause new or worsening abdominal pain. do not take viberzi
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lots of terrorist attacks, casualties are always horrible. what is different in terms of the symbolism or the effect of this attack? >> this one really targets the commercial and if you will, kind of symbolic epicenter of turkey. most of the attacks we've seen in the past. certainly at tourist destinations. but this is going after the
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establishment, if you will, it is istanbul and that is the commercial center of turkey. that airport is the third largest in europe. one of the largest in the world. it connects the world. so they're targeting and sending a message not just to turkey but the outer world. >> turkey has dealt with a lot of domestic terrorism. will this change turkey's attitude with fighting back? turkey is already involved in the future. a reluctance on a lot of the neighboring countries to do it without u.s. involvement in a way that would protect everybody. if they go to war in syria, that means going against the assad regime or the russian fighter jets, they want to know the u.s. has their back in that fight. that includes the russian
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fighters. they don't want to do it without the u.s. it it would add a tags die natur. dynamic aspect. >> is it conceivable there would be a change in how the war is fought? >> we've heard some countries like egypt and saudi arabia say they want to create rapid deployment force among arab countries. i don't think a lot of people are putting a lot of weight on that. the region like syria or even iraq. perhaps something in yemen. maybe libya but nothing as serious as libya. so i don't see any seismic shifts. very unlikely to happen unless the u.s. gets on board.
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>> if there is an actor who would heed that, is there anyone who would say we can't wait for a new american president? >> if there is a country who would lead it, perhaps the only one is turkey. it can literally bring the europeans to this particular field of operation, if you will. saudi arabia, egypt, not likely to do that. egypt is strain and the rise of isis. saudi arabia could have the resources to direct the power but it is dragged down in a brutal war in yemen with no end in sight. it has not gone too well for the saudi regime. i'm not sure they would be capable of how about other countries? >> what we've seen in the past in countries like france, they
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showed an immediate robust military activity in syria. they haunched their air campaign. with time, it dies down. i'm not sure that anier country has the authority to do it. i think their hands are if you have. i'm not sure that they'll be will, that they'll try to take on a military campaign. >> every effort had been met with there resistance. guess what i just did? built a sandcastle? ha, no, i switched to geico and got more. more?
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